{"id":363,"date":"2010-10-10T16:51:33","date_gmt":"2010-10-10T22:51:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/datingadviceblog.info\/blog\/?p=363"},"modified":"2011-05-25T07:59:54","modified_gmt":"2011-05-25T13:59:54","slug":"vin-di-carlo-and-pandoras-box-reviewed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/datingadviceblog.info\/blog\/vin-di-carlo-and-pandoras-box-reviewed\/","title":{"rendered":"Vin Di Carlo And Pandora&#8217;s Box Reviewed"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1>Vin DiCarlo<\/h1>\n<p>A first I had high hopes that perhaps Vin DiCarlo and his new Pandora\u2019s Box personality system would dethrone Mr. L. Rx and his <a href=\"http:\/\/datingadviceblog.info\/blog\/about\/mr-l-rx-dating-to-relating\/\">Dating To Relating<\/a> system as the #1 system for approaching and meeting women. Even though Vin DiCarlo evolved from a PUA background, I thought he may have seen the light and learned how things really worked. His eight different personality types and his website that trains you on each had a ring of workability about it that seemed to surpass Dating To Relating in simplicity of approach if nothing else.<\/p>\n<p>But after studying and applying Vin DiCarlo\u2019s Pandora Box system for about two months now, I am not sure that I can even recommend it in overall value over my existing #2 recommendation, David Deangelo and Double Your Dating. Though I feel that Vin Dicarlo\u2019s \u00a0approach is definitely superior to David Deangelo\u2019s approach, I feel that the combined study of Dating To Relating and Double Your Dating is still superior to the combined study of Dating To Relating and Pandora\u2019s box.<\/p>\n<p>However, as a system I would say I definitely would put Vin DiCarlo and Pandora\u2019s Box ahead of The Mystery Method (or Love Systems) and Neil Strauss\u2019s materials.<\/p>\n<h2>Vin DiCarlo<\/h2>\n<p>The problems I had with Vin\u2019s system are:<\/p>\n<p>1)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The eight types didn\u2019t seem to fit all women. I could continually come up with exceptions to his typing scheme.\u00a0 His thoughts and research I found to be very useful in understanding some women I knew, but overall the system has gaps in \u201cpersonality typing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>2)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The intention of the system seems to be tied into PUA philosophy which I don\u2019t agree with. PUA philosophy is sort of a chauvinistic, macho philosophy that wants to use women for a man\u2019s pleasure.\u00a0 PUAs are into sex with lots of women more than they are into meeting the ideal woman and establishing a relationship with her.<\/p>\n<p>Now, don\u2019t get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with this if that is what you are into. But I am not, and I don\u2019t think the majority of men are into that either. I believe the majority of men are just like me and want to know how to meet the woman of their dreams and marry her and never lose her. So I believe the majority of men need a product that addresses this.<\/p>\n<p>Vin Dicarlo, says conflicting statements on this. He says that his system is so powerful that men have to be responsible with his system and not hurt women with it, but I think this was just sales hype rather than true intention. His true intention comes out when he states the goal of the Pandora\u2019s Box System. Vin says that \u201cWe defined the goal of Pandora\u2019s box System as TOTAL DEVOTION \u2026 and by total devotion I mean she is willing to give up her current life plans, and devote her entire being to supporting you on your journey &#8230; making you her first priority above everything else, including her family.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now this may sound cool to an immature guy who lacks experience in relationships, but I have had TOTAL DEVOTION and it is quite insane and not needed or wanted. I am looking for a woman who is my equal, my companion and friend, my soul mate if you will,(and who just happens to be really hot!) I don\u2019t want the zombie\/slave thing\u2026Been there, done that. No good!<\/p>\n<p>Mr. L. Rx\u2019s system can be used by PUAs to achieve the zombie\/slave thing if that is what is wanted, or to just get laid every night, but what I respect about Mr. L. Rx and Dating To Relating, is that this is not the goal.\u00a0 So a PUA and a man like me can both get what we want out of Dating To Relating, because Dating To Relating\u2019s focus is on understanding women and attracting and communicating to them effectively. Dating To Relating doesn\u2019t have a hidden agenda to manipulate and control women, although it can be used for that if that is your wishes.<\/p>\n<p>3)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Another problem I had with Vin Dicarlo\u2019s Pandoras Box is that although there is an appeal of a website that tells you everything to do with the personality type, his \u201ctyping\u201d software didn\u2019t work well. I entered in several girls and answered all the questions correctly, yet it came back with a type that wasn\u2019t the right one. I had to go to the manual and read his materials to figure out the right type.<\/p>\n<p>4) Then there is the cost. Vin Dicarlo&#8217;s system is way more expensive then Dating To Relating. The core Pandora&#8217;s box system is $69.95 ,\u00a0 but the killer is you have to pay $24.77 a week to get the full system (totals about $800.00) and you have to wait a week to get each video on the different personality types. (Takes 8 months to get all the videos.)<\/p>\n<p>So, all in all, Vin\u2019s system does not replace Dating To Relating\u00a0 as the best, and although I like his approach, I think I still recommend David Deangelo\u2019s materials (especially the dating guru series because some of the guys in that series also have a personality approach) above Vin DiCarlo\u2019s materials.<\/p>\n<p>I would like it if Dating To Relating II (Coming out some time next year, I hear) would come out with some more defined types, but, all in all, Dating To Relating\u2019s strength is\u00a0 that it is a floating personality system with types you can define for yourself and in relation to you.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Mr. L. Rx writes a dating advice column for newspapers and here is a short article that he wrote about personality based systems for meeting and relating to women:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>Question:<\/strong> Mr. L. Rx, there are some other dating gurus who have personality based approaches to meeting women. I tried **** and **** but they didn\u2019t get anywhere near the eighty to ninety percent results that you claim for your system. Since you also champion the use of approaching different women with different strategies, can you tell me why these systems didn\u2019t work very well?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>Answer: <\/strong>Our system is a technology not a strategy.\u00a0 From a technology you can develop strategies. The systems that you refer to are strategy systems and will work better than the dating gurus who have one strategy for all women, but won\u2019t work as well as our technology.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">For a \u201cpersonality\u201d based system to work it has to consider several things that the above systems don\u2019t consider.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">1)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 People have a social personality and a real personality. Interviewing people isn\u2019t a good way to assess the truth about personality because people don\u2019t tell you the truth. Also the things that people say and the way that they act when you first meet them is not their true personality. There are ways to get at this information quickly, but you have to be cognizant of the fact that people have social personalities and real personalities to get at this information. The Dating To Relating technology allows you to do this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">2)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Both men and women have variable personalities. For any personality based system to be effective in establishing long term relationships (not one night stands) you have to take into account the personality of the man who is approaching in addition to the personality of the woman who is being approached. The systems you refer to do not have such a variable. They simply characterize women into different groups but then don\u2019t account for the different personalities among the men who are approaching these women.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">3)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There are a lot more personality types than the eight and three personality types that the two systems you refer to above respectively divide women into. There are at least ten major personality types that I have approached and probably another twenty, or so, types when you count the personality types that are variations on the above themes. In addition to that, you have the problem that even within a personality type you will not always get consistent behavior. People within the same personality type can express themselves differently. You need a way to account for all of this.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">4)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 There are also situational variables. There is actually no such thing as a \u201cpersonality type\u201d. People usually are a compilation of several different personality types and exhibit behavior of several different personality types in different situations. So a person may be one personality type when alone, another personality type when with friends, yet another when at church, etc.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">For all of the above reasons, this is why a technology is needed that can develop strategies on the fly rather than just memorizing approaches to a limited number of personality types. This is what \u201cDating To Relating\u201d is. It is a technology of how to meet and relate to women and a way of developing an unlimited amount of your own strategies of how to meet and relate to women. It is not one strategy (which is what most of the dating guru systems are) and not a collection of strategies (which is what a few of the better dating guru systems are).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Having said that, however, the systems that acknowledge and use multiple personality strategies are vastly superior to most of the dating systems out there.\u00a0 Most of the systems espouse one strategy and as a result will only work ten percent of the time. The systems that acknowledge and use a number of dating strategies will improve upon that success ratio considerably.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I would encourage you to study any of these kinds of systems as long as you integrate it with the Dating To Relating technology.\u00a0 Integrating these other systems with \u201cDating To Relating\u201d technology will allow you to fill in the gaps that these systems will have and give you a fuller understanding or what is really going on.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Mr. L. Rx<\/p>\n<h3>Vin DiCarlo And Pandora&#8217;s Box &#8211; Final Analysis<\/h3>\n<p>In the final analysis I believe that all the things Mr. L. Rx has written in the above article apply to Vin DiCarlo\u2019s Pandora\u2019s Box System. I give Pandora&#8217;s Box and Vin Dicarlo a 5.8\/10.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vin DiCarlo A first I had high hopes that perhaps Vin DiCarlo and his new Pandora\u2019s Box personality system would dethrone Mr. L. Rx and his Dating To Relating system as the #1 system for approaching and meeting women. 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